What did Jesus mean when he said, “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s” (cf. Matt 22:15 –22; Mark 12:13 –17; Luke 20:20 –26)? Was he endorsing government authority, drawing a line between politics and faith, or making a more subversive statement?

In this episode of What in the Word?, Kirk E. Miller sits down with Michael Bird to unpack this complex passage. They explore its historical and political context, the different ways it has been interpreted, and what it means for Christians today.

Does Jesus affirm paying taxes as a matter of obedience, or is he subtly challenging the system? What does this passage teach about our allegiance to God versus our responsibilities to the state? Join us as we explore one of Jesus’s most famous—and debated—statements.

Disclaimer: Logos values thoughtful and engaging discussions on important biblical topics. However, the views and interpretations presented in this episode are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the official position of Logos. We recognize that Christians may hold different perspectives on this passage, and we welcome diverse engagement and respectful dialogue.

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00:00 Introduction: What Does Jesus Mean by 'Render to Caesar'?

00:24 Show Introduction and Listener Support

00:59 Meet Dr. Michael Bird

03:26 Context of the Passage

05:47 Reading the Passage

07:06 Debate and Interpretation

12:12 The Trap Set for Jesus

15:38 Jesus' Clever Response

25:46 Historical and Theological Implications

31:37 Practical Significance and Preaching Tips

36:32 Conclusion and Listener Engagement